Errm yes so take my word for it



In the shadow of sketchup? why because it has dynamic push pull? :D:D Maybe you should look deeper into who the developers of SC and what they have achieved in this field. Sketchup is a glorified art program (bit better than arty farty) whereas SC builds proper geometry with substance that is manufacturable.....in their shadow did you say nahhhh not really



Well, I hope it's x10 better than the earlier versions because it certainly scared me:eek: IMHO Dual platform only "adds" to the development time of a product, thats NOT great news is it?.

If there is only one developer- maybe, yes. But in the case of Shark, Tim develops on the Mac and Ryan on the PC. It is the same with Rhino. I would also imagine that AutoDesSys also have more than one developer?

At the end of the day, if a developer chooses to to develop for more than one platform, there's not really much one can do about it, and in the end it is better for both developer and consumer, because there is choice. :D

Yes Rhino is very good, but I miss the ability to make parametric adjustments, without having to redraw.

Again though, Rhino is over the 1000 mark to buy. Shark is still cheaper.

There is however a company called Ledas from Russia, who are making a parametric plug-in for Rhino called DrivingDimensions. Ledas already make a parametric plug-in for Sketchup. I also have both the PC and Mac beta for this plug in (both are excellent). Ledas hope to make the Rhino version next.

I have nothing against Solidworks and Pro/E, apart from their prices, which I simply cannot afford. Also, I would have to invest a further 800 or so, on top of those, just to upgrade my ageing PC.

In my mind, 3D CAD is ridiculously overpriced, whatever angle you want to look at it from.

I've just downloaded the latest rh40Mac beta build- so I'll give it a look. But I think the beta is still at v4 (it is). Apparently when the Windows v5 build arrives, Rhino for Mac will also upgrade. (I still think Shark, despite the few remaining small, but irritating bugs, is a far better CAD than Rhino :) )



Yes, but you probably bought it when the pound was strong against the dollar. I'm sure it is worth every penny, however I've just bought a Lumix G1 digital camera for 350 secondhand, and I know from experience, that I can make that back within one PR shoot. I'd say that I'm going to have to do 5 to 10 CAD jobs to make 1000, and right now, the manufacturing CAD work ain't exactly pouring in. So this still seems a lot of money to me.




Yes Grasshopper looks very fun and powerful too, but Ledas' plug-in is only $50, which isn't very much outlay.

One thing I must say Paul, is that in my personal experience, software for Mac, is one heck of a lot cheaper than software for Windows. I guess I've kind of come accustomed to that now.

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Directly, this is not the problem !!!
Handicap is, program, that comes without SDK.
If something is not working, a plugin can do it.
Rhino's strength is SDK and openNURBS and see other popular software.
Hundreds and hundreds of plugins that enhance the functionality.

Keyword: SketchUp ..what is SketchUp without plugins (naked belly), see examples
http://www.tensile-structures.de/
http://sketchup.google.com/download/plugins.html
http://www.ohyeahcad.com/download/
http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLi...y/RUBY_Library_Depot.htm
http://www.smustard.com/
http://drivingdimensions.com/
For one or two developer a long way, such a comprehensive functionality, or not Paul ???
I do not think, that on a platform was something faster.

SketchUp can handle only polygonal data. A bad comparison to BONZAI3d.
Do not forget, BONZAI3d is based on ACIS, thus the same base, such as Shark.
In V1 very powerful, Acis 19 supported.
At the moment is not dangerous for Shark, may however change.
Ok, VC/Sahrk has almost everything you need and VC comes with the best price.
However, many functions need refinement, particularly 2d modul and accuracy.
The same also applies to Shark and VC.
I hope to, Tim and Ryan change this shortly !!!

regards ED

Made me laugh, Tom. Poor Douglas died a couple of years before the Oxford English Dictionary boffins did a backflip with a grace that would make a politician swoon with envy, when they decided that they'd been waging a pogrom against it due to faulty logic, and that it's alright to do it after all. And they showed Vatican-like thickness of skin by not apologising to the Copernican-statured visionaries that they'd excommunicated from the language, who'd been splitting away defiantly regardless of the opprobrium.

Crikey! :eek: A fellow hitch hiker!! :D

:D

I'll let you into a little secret, the original BBC Radio series was a lot better (IMHO)! What I love about radio, is that you can create far better images using your brain's own imagination- rather than fancy effects. The TV series was of course, also created before computer graphics.

I didn't really care for the 3rd and 4th series- the ones that were made recently. These were a little too 'over dramatised' for my personal liking. Sometimes nothing but eerie Radiophonic wind in the background is all you need to blow you away! :cool:

Steve, have you seen VirtualMEC; Mecanno CAD? :eek:

http://www.virtualmec.com/


:cool:

Well, Steve, maybe it helps your imagination using the TOOLS of today on the PARTS of the past.

I created the models in the attached images about 7-10 years ago (using FormZ). The buggy was a fantasy model I created, which was later on built by Mrklin for a catalog title. The "LaManche" plane was a real Mrklin Metall product, and we did the assembly instructions :)

Regards,
Bernd