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Art Smith  
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:15:27 PM(UTC)
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my Shark FX9 CD, registration code, and electronic copy of ViaCAD Tips, Tutorials, and Techniques by Tim Olson for sale for $2000 plus shipping from 93555. I've decided to accelerate my planned migration to SolidWorks. while not a Shark FX9 package specific problem, lack of anthropometric modeling support is none the less a serious problem for a near term project.

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Art Smith  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2016 12:44:11 PM(UTC)
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anyone with a friend or company that needs a copy of Shark FX9 ??

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:49:49 PM(UTC)
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Your call, but I don't think Solidworks is a winner IMO. There are other constraint/parametric modelers that are cheaper and arguably better (Try ZW3D). Cumbersome, buggy, surfacing is not as strong... I initially learned 3D design on Solidworks and have used it for the last 9 years and only continue to use it because of customer demands. That is one major benefit, it is very popular. It's drafting is really nice too. I haven't played much with ViaCAD / Sharks drafting to compare.

Aside from drafting which to be honest I haven't tested much in ViaCAD, I would take ViaCAD and certainly shark over SW anyday. I'm not even taking price into account where ViaCAD and Shark are clear winners.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:17:20 AM(UTC)
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I agree with Solidtooldesigns! Solidworks, Inventor are not really better than Shark IMHO. All these programs where you build parts, assemblies and sheets separately are not intuitive for me.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:34:37 AM(UTC)
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Apples and Oranges... SolidWorks, Inventor/MechanicalDesktop, Alibre, Creo/ProE, Solid Edge, NX (to name the common) are MCAD modelers whereas Shark/VC is targeting a free, direct modeling for conceptual purposes. If functionality as e.g. parts/assemblies or formula driven constraints or specialized stuff as e.g. sheet metal or cinematics/animations etc. is required, a MCAD modeler is simply the right tool for the job... sure, fiddling around can be done always but workarounds are typically time consuming.

But anyway, with a recent official retail price of U$ 2,296.- and the discounts available with more or less every newsletter *sigh* the invoked pricing seems to be a little optimistic to me.

Also would check if the Shark EULA does allow to sell the license and if Punch! will transfer the license to a new licensee?

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:10:00 AM(UTC)
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If VCAD/Shark are not going to have constraints then I think they should just dump the parametrics and go straight direct modelling. The software already has all the great direct modelling tools, IMO it could use a little tweaking with them but the foundation is there.

I've made suggestions for more features but honestly I would rather see bug fixes and a little more development with the features it has to improve work flow and customization. This really is a very powerful software.

While I feel Shark is a little pricey as posh.de mentions, VCAD is very affordable. Overall I'm very happy with the power for the price.

magicart I couldn't agree more about all the different assemblies and parts, sketch modes... these are not intuitive. One level like VCAD/Shark is the way to go. I defended SW for years before giving other softwares a real try. Once, I did, I never looked back.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:28:27 AM(UTC)
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Hello,

Challenge:

2'35'' for this model.
All parametric.

GO! test with another softwares :)

http://www.screencast.com/t/GLDPHMRW

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posh.de  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:56:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: solidtooldesigns Go to Quoted Post
... should just dump the parametrics and go straight direct modelling.

recent Shark is direct modeling (only)...

Originally Posted by: solidtooldesigns Go to Quoted Post
While I feel Shark is a little pricey as posh.de mentions

I neither said nor meant this.

Originally Posted by: solidtooldesigns Go to Quoted Post
...assemblies and parts, sketch modes... these are not intuitive. One level like VCAD/Shark is the way to go.

if MCAD functionality is explicitly required, a MCAD modeler is obvioulsy the right way to go... regardless of ease of use.

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:21:04 AM(UTC)
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Sorry posh I misunderstood your statement about the pricing. You meant that it is light ?

ViaCAD is still parametric. I'm pretty sure shark is too. I recently tried the trial for shark and it was parametric. Do you mean constraints ? Parametric refers to history based (feature tree) to my understanding.

Which do you mean by MCAD functionality being required ? Native formats ?
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:57:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: solidtooldesigns Go to Quoted Post
You meant that it is light ?

no, I meant what I've written.

Originally Posted by: solidtooldesigns Go to Quoted Post
Do you mean constraints ? Parametric refers to history based (feature tree) to my understanding.

I meant parametric dimensioning/formulas and geometrical constraints driving the geometry but not the features with editable parameters.

With "direct modeling" in CAx applications typically a creation of geometry without being required to define parametric dimensions or constraints is meant, using parameters for the dimensions of geometry and features of course.


Originally Posted by: solidtooldesigns Go to Quoted Post
Which do you mean by MCAD functionality being required ?

already elaborated above.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:34:36 AM(UTC)
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I apologize. English is clearly not my strong suit.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:32:25 AM(UTC)
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while not a Shark FX9 package specific problem, lack of anthropometric modeling support is none the less a serious problem for a near term project.


as stated in my original post, my problem isn't with Shark FX. my problem is the lack of third party plug-in's for Shark! if you need anthropometric modeling capability and it isn't offered for your current CAD package, you have two choices: 1.) develop the anthropometric capability yourself; or 2.) change CAD packages. I purchased Shark FX to get more capability in large part because I'd found ViaCad 7 easy to use (ie: Shark FX uses the same GUI) and solid (ie: very few bugs/features).

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