I'm currently using ViaCAD Pro v11 build 1441. There are days when everything is perfectly smooth. Then suddenly kablooey. Today is one of those days.

I've been working on a model, decided to delete some holes and re-place them elsewhere, and realized I deleted the wrong thing. hit undo, the item came back but suddenly all my entities were gone in the Concept Explorer, and everything was in the hole. That is, all the objects in the object were suddenly all flattened into the hole I had deleted (then undid that delete), and that was the only entity listed. I was able to load up from a backup, but I lost a fair bit of work in the process.

The thing is, it seems like Undo is totally unreliable, and there are times when the file will suddenly be corrupted and there's nothing I or support can do to fix it. That's happened twice, on relatively complete models (which is pretty annoying). I chose this application because I was sick of Fusion360 crashing on me (and constantly changing around the user interface just when I get used to it), but this is almost as bad.

I really want to like this software. It's so much better than Fusion in a lot of ways, and it works the way I think about 3D modeling, so I'd prefer to use it. but man, this is just a mess.

So I haven't beta tested v12 yet, and I really don't have time to get into it right now, but I'd love to know if it's primarily about bug fixes, or if stability/reliability are the focus. That may make the decision for me as to whether or not I stick with ViaCAD going forward.

Thanks!

Edited by user Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:11:06 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Thanks - none of the new features are applicable to me, I'm mostly interested in bug fixes, which aren't enumerated. I'm on the beta forum for v12, but I can't find anything there either that has a specific bug fix list. There are a lot of complaints that longstanding bugs haven't been addressed though...

I'd love to see a comprehensive bug fix list before spending more money on an upgrade.

Thanks - I mean, I really do like it when it's not freaking out on me. I'm able to get a lot more work done than I am in Fusion360, and I prefer perpetual licenses to cloud-based subscriptions. I mean, if 12 is more stable than 11, I'd be willing to fork over the $140 upgrade fee. But if it's not, I'm not sure it's worth it.

"I really want to like this software. It's so much better than Fusion in a lot of ways, and it works the way I think about 3D modeling, so I'd prefer to use it. but man, this is just a mess."

I totally agree with your comment... my brain just seems to flow better with Shark, and it feels like a more creative environment than Fusion. It's hard to explain...

I stayed on V10 pro, and desperately wanted constraints so I'v been hanging for V12. But now it's here I'm not sure, and I'm starting to think I should just switch full time to Fusion.

Autodesk is just taking over everything and it's hard to avoid it. Lots of business are now demanding you use it if you want their work.

In relation to bugs, it shouldn't be forgotten Fusion is always being updated... but I've never hit a bug. However, I cant say the same with Shark which has hung several times. I feel for Tim, he has great software but I'm not sure there is much of a market anymore.

Did you request your Shark trial from this site: https://www.punchcad.com/free-trials
thanks + best wishes
G.

Not that I can see. Have been running V10 and tried v12 trial to see if there were fixes. Running into most of the same problems.

Thanks. I guess I'll hold off for now. hopefully they're going to focus on bug fixes soon.

Sorry to destroy the bad mood but I just ordered the upgrade after testing the trial - compared to v10 the autosave happens completely in the background. The disruptive autosave was my biggest problem with that version and the improvement enough to justify the upgrade price. Now I’m praying they will fix those bugs that come with the improvements.

The question is was this supposed to happen? Who knows, we haven't been told....

I upgraded to 12 after trying the demo due to improvements that I was hoping to see .

Todd seems to be the right support guy to talk to . A while back we discussed an issue that I've been having over the past few versions and it has been resolved for the most part , though some improvements are being looked into .

I haven't played with it enough to come across many bugs , but one bug that came up was having an error message and my solid model shredded into a screwy wire frame after doing a couple undo's .