Maybe there is a trick buried in the docs that I haven't found yet, but is there a way to maintain the starting point of a line, when I type in a length for it?

I'm still new to ViaCAD and migrating from my prior software, so things work a little differently...

The scenario is I draw a line, and I want to draw the next line, starting at the endpoint of the first line, but enter a specific length for it.

What happens is the LogiCursor enable starting on the endpoint of the first line, and I draw out an approximate distance. But then when I type the desired length in the data entry, the line adjusts to the correct length, but jumps off the starting pojnt.

This seems very counterintuitive, and I'm guessing it must be pilot error on my part.

How can I draw a line, and maintain it's initial position, when entering a value for it?

2 images attached showing where the line starts, then entering a length of 3' and how it "jumps" off of the desired endpoint of the other line.

Thanks,

Edited by user Tuesday, November 21, 2023 1:20:55 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

That's crazy, I've never seen such behavior before. Is this a new bug in Version 14? In SharkCAD and ViaCAD, the correct principle for drawing a line is to first draw the line and then define its length.

Well, I used the line example as the simplest case of where I see this happen, but it happens on other tools too.

And I apologize for posting my two images in the wrong order, the right image is the initial case, the left image is the result.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Draw a line (I drew a vertical line, but any angle does the same)
2. Start drawing a second line, with the LogiCursor indicating "endpoint" of the first line (I drew a horizontal line, perpendicular to the first, likewise, any angle does the same)
3. Click to end the new line.
4. Start typing a length, which will automatically highlight and enter the text in the Length data entry field (I typed 4' --> number 4 and single quote for feet, using feet/inches units)
5. Hit return, and new line jumps off of the endpoint of the first line.

Alarmingly, Tim's suggestion of trying the Multi-Line tool exhibits the same behavior...

1. Start drawing a line
2. Before clicking to place the second point, type 2' and hit return
3. On mouse movement, line and cursor jump

--> The first attached image shows a sequence of drawing arbitrary angled lines, and entering 2' before clicking the endpoint.

Then I tried a variation, manually dragging out to 2' a couple times on the first two line segments, then on the third typing in the 2' value, and the multi-line jumps off the end of the first two (well behaved) lines. Screen shot attached.

--> The second screenshot sows a multi-line created by dragging out manually to 2' twice, then typing the 2' value for the third line.

Edited by user Wednesday, November 22, 2023 12:53:04 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hello,
The easiest way to capture a video on a Mac is to use Quicktime (File menu, 3rd line : record screen)

Thank you, and yes, I understand that is how it is expected to work. That is why I asked my question... it isn't working that way for me at the moment.

Attached is an example where I...

1. Drew a circle
2. Started a vertical line with LogiCursor saying it was in the center
3. Clicked to place the endpoint of the first line
4. Then used the tab key to highlight the "Length" field
5. Typed 3' and hit return
6. The line "jumped" out of the circle, up and to the right
7. I started a second horizontal new line, with the LogiCursor saying it was on the "endpoint" of the first line
8. I dragged and clicked to set the finishing point to the right of the start point
9. I typed tab until the "Length" field was highlighted
10. I typed 3' and hit return, the still highlighted red line shows where that line jumped to

I am using WIP 1641. I will install another version to try and reproduce and see if this is a recent change in behavior.

There was also a recent fix to the feet/inches and for troubleshooting purposes I will test to see if this happens in other units (I am currently working on architectural drawings in feet/inches).

More to follow.

Thanks for the comments. Initially I thought I was going crazy...

I filed a bug report on this, as I was able to reproduce it in ViaCAD and now SharkCAD.

With further testing, it seems to be specific to working in units of feet/inches, and doesn't appear to happen in any of the other units I tested.

I suspect this crept in with the recent WIP build that fixed the data entry field, when working in feet/inches.

Yes, I know that the tab is unnecessary *most* of the time, for the "expected case" like changing the length.

I was merely trying to be sure I followed Tim's suggestion above, so as not to add yet another variable in the attempt to troubleshoot or reproduce the issue.

So far, with my ongoing testing, this still appears limited to working in feet/inches only.

Edited by user Friday, December 1, 2023 4:15:33 PM(UTC)  | Reason: clean up quote

And just to confirm, per Tim's earlier comment, the behavior is just as weird using the multi-line tool. Every time I hit return / enter, the line jumps from where it was drawn.

As far as I can tell, this still *only* affects drawing in the feet/inch mode. All other modes seem to work as expected.

I tested this in version 9 and version 10. In these versions, the problem does not occur after changing the units to inches in the preferences.The higher the version, the more bugs. When does it end?

This bug occurs without using fractions, just whole number, e.g. 6' 4" will cause the line to jump from the drawn position.

Edited by user Tuesday, July 2, 2024 10:33:22 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified