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UGMENTALCASE  
#21 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2024 7:43:44 AM(UTC)
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Funny video to watch, then randomly goes to his desktop with some coding and email window?
See they still have the comical numbering, solid_10297418395836152833000271638 and it's the first solid of a new file
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#22 Posted : Sunday, December 15, 2024 5:13:35 PM(UTC)
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I upgraded to SharkCAD 15 Pro and found no errors during my initial tests. Copilot appears to be an integrated web browser with AI support but is as sluggish as the symbol display. Relevant analyses are only possible with a Pro version that isn’t integrated.

My favorite bug, where operations are canceled when using Multiselect and In-Stream Zoom commands, hasn’t been fixed. But I can live with that – the developers apparently love that it doesn’t work properly.

It is allowed to install the software on multiple computers as long as it is used by only one user. Below is a ChatGPT summary of the license terms.
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General License Terms

License Type:
Personal, non-transferable, non-exclusive license to use the software.
Use on multiple computers is allowed, but only one instance can be active at a time.

Backup:
A single backup copy is permitted, e.g., in case of hardware failure.

Restrictions:
No sharing, sublicensing, modification, reverse engineering, or transfer of the software.
Educational licenses cannot be used for commercial purposes.

Warnings and Limitations

Function Limitations:
The software is designed for professional use and does not replace independent design decisions.
Users are responsible for verifying results and ensuring the accuracy of outputs.

Liability Disclaimer:
Encore is not liable for damages or errors caused by using the software.
All use is at the user’s own risk.

Technical Details and License Activation

License Key:
Activation requires an internet connection.
Limited number of installations allowed.
Misuse can lead to license deactivation.

Data Privacy:
Collected data may be stored outside the user’s country.
Encore may disclose data to comply with legal or security requirements.

Legal Basis and Export Restrictions

Export Control:
Software must comply with U.S. export laws.
No redistribution to unauthorized countries.

Jurisdiction:
Governing law: California, USA.
Legal disputes handled in San Francisco, California.

Support and Warranty

Support:
Free support is provided for 6 months; paid plans are available afterward.

Limited Warranty:
Media (e.g., CDs) are covered against defects for 90 days.
No guarantee of error-free software.

Summary

License for personal/professional use with restrictions.
Educational licenses are not for commercial use.
Activation and adherence to license terms are required.
Liability and warranty are strictly limited.
Export and legal disputes are subject to U.S. laws.

This document governs the use and rights of the software and is binding for all users.
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#23 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2024 10:46:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: damhave Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for sharing your experience with upgrading to SharkCAD Pro V15. It’s reassuring to hear that the issue with the 3DConnexion Spacemouse was resolved . I also use SharkCAD Pro with Spacemouse/Space Navigator, so your insights are especially relevant and appreciated.

If you don’t mind, could you share your impressions of which interface bugs have been addressed? Also, were release notes included with the download, or are they available elsewhere? At the moment, my mouse is hovering over the Alibre buy button due to the limited information available about SharkCAD V15.

Thank you again for your helpful feedback!


The last release of V14 on Mac had issues with tools not remembering their last state. Incredibly annoying. This has been fixed. I'm a long time user so not expecting miracles but just happy we got another version and that it feels normal. Alibre is not an option on Mac but I personally fear having to work exclusively in Fusion.
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#24 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2024 5:41:54 PM(UTC)
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That ChatGPT summary of the license terms is inconsistent. If use on multiple computers is allowed, how does that square with only one "backup copy" permitted? The actual license terms with reported real-world experience would be more convincing and persuasive considering the experience I've had with IMSI under its current ownership. The blurb on the website says a "companion copy", available for a discounted price can be had, as it was for TurboCAD 2022. So which of these apply?. Plasticity is permitted on four PCs, Rhino on as many as you like. Why should I settle for this ambiguous mess? ChatGPT is is supposedly generative AI, able to learn and infer from input. How many versions of the story is IMSI putting about?

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#25 Posted : Monday, December 16, 2024 6:38:23 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for all your replies.

After following all the reports about v14 problems, it never quite seemed ready for prime time, so I'v e been coasting along on v12 and (stuck with Monterey). Now for other reasons I need to update my system past Monterey. Tried a couple of virtualization schemes with a Monterey guest; vmWare on Intel (really poor performance) and Virtual Buddy on an M2 Studio (quite promising but some inconveniences especially with a Monterey guest). Then., just as I was giving up on that approach - v15 shipped.

Not having a v14 license I couldn't try the v15 WIP releases so what you've reported here is all I've got to go on.

The present upgrade offer is through tomorrow (Tuesday) and I think I've seen enough to swallow hard and go for it.

However, I am a little perplexed at the apparent PowerPack upgrade pricing.


ViaCad pro -> v15 pro is $199 (before discount)

ViaCad Pro and Powerpack -> V15 Pro and PowerPack is $429 or $230 just for the PowerPack upgrade!


Pro is $550 for a new license, upgrade is $199 (36% of new)

PowerPack is $330 for a new license, upgrade is $230? (70% of new)???

I've dragged PowerPack along for many generations even though I rarely use any of it but If I'm looking at it correctly, this is too much.

Thoughts?

Cheers, Louis

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#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 4:24:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Claus2 Go to Quoted Post
The last release of V14 on Mac had issues with tools not remembering their last state. Incredibly annoying. This has been fixed. I'm a long time user so not expecting miracles but just happy we got another version and that it feels normal. Alibre is not an option on Mac but I personally fear having to work exclusively in Fusion.


I thought it was just me seeing this, and it's really annoying, so glad it's fixed in v15, but why isn't there an update to bug fix v14?
I was getting loads of non-manifold errors exporting STEP files into Orca slicer, and it turned out to be the thread tool in Powerpack and me not noticing the interface not holding preferences.
It defaults to "External" even if you do an internal thread first, it doesn't remember, hopefully this is fixed in v15

I've just had to fill in the old threaded holes, re-hole the part and redo the threads, each time selecting "internal"... sigh... and all because the history tree in v14 always seems to get corrupted by undos, and you end up with an ACIS solid creating a dead end to removing features.

Mike

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#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 4:33:10 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: a.wieneke Go to Quoted Post
hello,
i'm looking, of anybody bought ViaCad 15 or Shark 15
I'm using Shark 14 and have no idea if Version 15 makes sence.
i make jewellery design in Shark


Hi.

I'm an user of Sharkcad 14. I'm not sure that I will upgrade to V15 for the moment.
I don't remember the previous upgrade plans but it seems very expensive this year: 479$ before the discount...
For the moment I prefer to wait for better discount or decreased price or v16. New functions are not essential to me and AI stuff... I don't care.

Nicolas
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 7:32:04 AM(UTC)
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I've upgraded to v15. There are not many improvements but my view is that if I upgrade then I am supporting development and bug fixes. I wouldn't expect fixes to any bugs for v14- that's the way it goes for many products.

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#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 7:49:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: murrayagain Go to Quoted Post
That ChatGPT summary of the license terms is inconsistent. If use on multiple computers is allowed, how does that square with only one "backup copy" permitted? The actual license terms with reported real-world experience would be more convincing and persuasive considering the experience I've had with IMSI under its current ownership. The blurb on the website says a "companion copy", available for a discounted price can be had, as it was for TurboCAD 2022. So which of these apply?. Plasticity is permitted on four PCs, Rhino on as many as you like. Why should I settle for this ambiguous mess? ChatGPT is is supposedly generative AI, able to learn and infer from input. How many versions of the story is IMSI putting about?

This is so written in the original license text, which I moved with copy and paste to ChatGPT. I assume ChatGPT did not make this up freely, as it tends to do sometimes.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 12:50:45 PM(UTC)
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I am just curious,
How do you find the metric fasteners in the Ver.15 2d/3d Parts Library.
Thanks,
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murrayagain  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2024 12:54:14 PM(UTC)
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There are two situations described in it, they're mutually exclusive. It amounts to nonsense.
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:10:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nick R Go to Quoted Post
I've upgraded to v15. There are not many improvements but my view is that if I upgrade then I am supporting development and bug fixes. I wouldn't expect fixes to any bugs for v14- that's the way it goes for many products.

I have to lough loud ;-) I also made all SharkCAD Pro upgrades till v14. And now? No more bug fixes for very old bugs for v14??!! Seriously??!! V15 still no native Apple Silicon and Metal.

For Mac:
Do 2D PDF Export works in v15?
Do 3D PDF Export works in V15?
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:13:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Claus2 Go to Quoted Post

The last release of V14 on Mac had issues with tools not remembering their last state. Incredibly annoying. This has been fixed. I'm a long time user so not expecting miracles but just happy we got another version and that it feels normal. Alibre is not an option on Mac but I personally fear having to work exclusively in Fusion.


I'm also on Mac, but seriously considering Alibre with Parallels on an M4 Mac mini. A complete non-sense having such a great potential with SharkCAD. But I'm really tired and annoyed. I feel SharCAD is one of the best CAD software, but the reliability is too poor. Alibre seems to be very similar to SharkCADs UI and way of work.

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#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:40:21 PM(UTC)
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No, I would say. Several bugs remain unresolved.
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