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Problems with moving objects w/ gripper and 'Undo' (#4026)
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Trfsrfr  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:07:09 AM(UTC)
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I've been having more issues with this than anything else...

This morning I reversed a battery charger at work. A real simple design with 3 main pieces, and one cut out.

I then turned off some other layers so I could select all the pieces, and move them into position.

I noticed that when I moved them, one of the pieces didnt 'move' with the others until I let go of the mouse button, then it would fall into place.

So, I moved it, didnt like the location, then hit undo.

When I hit undo, it made a wireframe copy of my object at the origin, that is not grouped with the original object, but cannot be deleted without deleting them both.

This happens a lot lately.

Is this me causing this? or something else?
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jol  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:40:00 PM(UTC)
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I've seen it

I'm not sure it's Gripper related - I think the undo stack trips over itself every now and then
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Trfsrfr  
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:30:31 AM(UTC)
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This happens to me all the time!
Drives me nuts.
I haven't figured out exactly what causes it to happen yet...
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jol  
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:42:50 AM(UTC)
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... agrees : )

there are a few aspects of Shark / VC that give rise to such critical issues

I guess Tim will get them all in the end

Meantime - if you notice any patterns that can be documented - they are invaluable to verifying and rectifying such problems
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TeraVolt  
#5 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 1:37:13 AM(UTC)
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have this "funny" result also from time to time, but can't say exactly when. Think it was when I use the Gripper with the mouse.

My result after the redo are sometimes surprisingly, the visible solid is on another position than the "box" for selection. Nothing I do, except deleting, can correct it :(

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Trfsrfr  
#6 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:57:05 PM(UTC)
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This is almost getting to the point of being unusable.

I again tonight came up with the 'ghost' object. I'm not sure if its at origin or not. Every time I notice it, it is usually long after its been there, and cannot pinpoint what it was that I did to make it happen.

But tonight, it wasnt that long ago, and I think I did a polygon thicken, then since I couldnt get it to thicken in the direction I wanted, I just thickened it, then used the gripper data entry box to move it the distance of the thickness...

After probably no more than 2 or 3 additional steps, I noticed the 'ghost' object again...

Still offset from the original, but always completely attached to it.
I had to delete both objects again and star over...
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blowlamp  
#7 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 7:47:51 AM(UTC)
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Here's a ViaCAD Pro file that repeats the problem if you follow the steps in the video.

A 'wall unit' was made from a block primitive - sized to suit my needs and then duplicated with history (maybe from a copy of a copy), after which it was rotated and positioned etc.

http://screencast.com/t/3qtaJUVzj


Martin.
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Tim Olson  
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:09:26 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Martin for the video and file. I've got it to repeat here and looking into a correction.

Tim
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blowlamp  
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:57:57 PM(UTC)
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Nice one, Tim.


Martin.
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Trfsrfr  
#10 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2011 8:57:37 AM(UTC)
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This time I watched it happen.

I made a solid block to be removed from another block.
I used the Gripper to move it out of the way to see if I had it positioned correctly, then used a Ctrl Z to undo and move it back into position, and voila!
there it is another wireframe copy of my original at the origin.

Gripper and Ctrl Z.
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Tim Olson  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 1, 2011 3:28:40 PM(UTC)
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>>Here's a ViaCAD Pro file that repeats the problem

Fixed in the 997 builds.

Tim
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Trfsrfr  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 1, 2011 6:37:04 PM(UTC)
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I am running version 936.
It says it is the most current version.

Is it?

Should I be updating or something here?

I sure would like a fix to that bug on my pc...
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Tim Olson  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:22:21 AM(UTC)
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>>Should I be updating or something here?

I'm hoping to get out a beta V8 SP1 build within the next couple of weeks. (Encore has swamped the dev team with tasks) When it is ready to test I will put up a post in the Beta section of this forum.

Tim
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